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Post by Hannah on Apr 4, 2013 9:06:17 GMT -5
First off I want to give the three of you a huge congratulations. You three did what 17 other players could not, you outwitted, outlasted, and outplayed all the rest to get to the point where you are today. I am a person who holds dear the notion that if you make it to this point in the game, regardless if you floated, sheeped, or just plain did jack shit all game, you deserve your spot, because what you did worked for you and it got you to where you are at. So above all else, and no matter what people say, keep your heads high just for making the final 3 in such an epic and amazing game. You all earned it.
For me, since I was the first out at jury, I could go through everything, and over analyze everything to try and determine who I want to win this game, but rather I am not going to do that. I am going to ask each of you specific questions that I need answered to determine who I personally want to win this game. The only thing I am going to look at is your opening and closing statements, as well as your answers to my questions. I do not care how you answer other questions in the jury, because this is my decision to be made, and I know what I need to figure out to cast my vote for certain players. And with that lets begin....
Perry...
You confuse me. I do not understand your argument of me breaking the trust barrier with Cascade (who was apparently willing to work with me) when you all were willing to lie to me about a vote, after I personally kept YOU in the game. You cannot blame what happened on me when you, and your other cascades were going around to the likes of Quincy trying to get a vote thrown on me, when I was nothing but good and loyal to you. To me that is a slap in the face from you. But besides that Perry you confuse me. I see you as this player who is very...unaware. So your job is to convince me otherwise. Convince me that you were rather very aware of this game, and all the twists and turns it held. I will be blunt, you have the most work to win my jury vote, but that does not mean it is out of reach. Like I said I was first out in Jury, so I don't have nearly as much to base my vote off of.
Vincent...
You were a devil in sheeps clothes to be quite honest. You played a very under the radar game, and slipped by round after round without a target on your back, while still being able to make moves that furthered you to the point you are at today. Even without immunity last round, you were able to avoid the tie which is a great feat in and of itself, showing how many connections you had. To be quite honest, if I could I would have loved to play your type of game, if it hadn't been for my number 1 ally being voted out at the first judgement for Napa, but that is beside the point. What I need to know from you Vincent is what was the overall biggest move made in this game, and if you personally were involved in the orchestrating and execution of the move. If you were, why did you do what you did at that point and how did it help you get to where you are at now? And if you were not apart of the move, what about the move do you respect the most, and find most appealing to be classified as the greatest move this season. Please elaborate if I was not in the game at the point this move was made...since like I said I was out quite early.
Luca...
I like to think that I personally don't take this game...well...personal. I am quite good at separating emotions from games most of the time, but after being (a self-appointed) underdog from the beginning of the game, I actually invested a lot into this game, and I do take moves personally. I mean when the game is all said and done, I will move on, and I will congratulate whoever the winner may be, even if it is you. You have the easiest path to my vote at the moment. You are someone who I see played the most sound and solid game out of the three of you left. But I need some answers from you, to help me separate emotion from the game. Why should I look past that you are the main reason I was voted out for 12th and didn't have any more rounds to fight for my life in the game, after you assured me you were with me, when there really was no reason to give me false hope? I need to know this because it is the thing that I am struggling with most from you, and if I did not have that obstacle, you would hands down have my vote to win this game.
To the three of you, again, congratulations and job well done. I am sorry if my questions are bland, personal, or just plain annoying, but I was out early, and I have not got to talk to any of you in over a month.
A final few questions that I would like you all to answer along with your personalized questions. 1) Who are the three people who most deserve to be in the final 3 and why? Do not include yourself or anyone already sitting in the final 3. 2) Why do the two other finalists deserve my vote more than you? You will automatically lose my vote if you say they do not, I want to know what they did that was unique to their game that stood out to you. 3) What was the worst move made in this game? I want to test your perception of the game around you, and do not feel unable to use a move that possibly involved me.
And finally...
4) In one word, describe everyone in the jury. No explanations, just 1 word.
Like I said I will only pay attention to this thread, your opening, and your closing statements, so make this count. Wow me, think about your answers, and may the best boy win.
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Post by Vincent on Apr 4, 2013 14:43:26 GMT -5
Hey Hannah! I'm really happy that you understand my strategy and see my gameplay in it, it makes me feel better <3. Those are my answers... Vincent is what was the overall biggest move made in this game, and if you personally were involved in the orchestrating and execution of the move. Unfortunately, voting you out. I'm the one who initiated that move to make it happen. I talked to Luca and former Cascade, they were all set on voting for Beau after your name was brought up, which was not good for me cause I had a side deal with Beau and him leaving wasn't good for my game. You & me were close too, but you had many other connections and you were more dangerous. So I convinced Luca that you were a bigger threat and got him to vote for you, and since Jessica's head was on the chopping block, I knew she would change her vote when I tell her that Luca will be voting for you. Jessica changing her vote to Luca, of course meant that Perry & Yvette will do what she says. I didn't want to make it obvious that I was the one behind that move, cause if I did... I would be seen as a schemer. I didn't orchestrate the whole thing, I'm not giving myself all the credit, but you asked about involvement and I'm the one who initiated that move. If I didn't start it, Beau would half left instead. I know that this will probably make me lose your vote cause you thought Luca did the whole thing and you are mad at him, but I'm gonna be honest with you. If you were, why did you do what you did at that point and how did it help you get to where you are at now?Nothing personal, you know how much I love you but when the vote was on you, then was flipped to Beau, this made me even more determined that you are the biggest threat and best player left in the game at that time. You were a huge social threat and the way you were able to take the target off of you surprised me, I just felt like you could stay in the middle of both sides and play the game I was playing. You were a smooth talker, you weren't afraid to make big moves and I saw a very dangerous player in you so I was determined that this move had to be made before it was too late, cause you were also capable of winning challenges. ----- 1) Who are the three people who most deserve to be in the final 3 and why? Jessica, Tess & you. Simply because the three of you played very respectful and awesome games that I personally admire. 2) Why do the two other finalists deserve my vote more than you? Because they won more challenges than me and performed better, in them while I wasn't able to win any. 3) What was the worst move made in this game? Ian voting out Freddie pre-merge! I feel like that it was just un-necessary and too early to make such a move! It put a huge target on his back and popped up many question marks. It obviously screwed him over because he left the following round. I have been close to Ian and he talked to me a lot about how much he felt threatened by Freddie, which makes sense cause Freddie was a good social gamer but he chose a very wrong time to do it. 4) In one word, describe everyone in the jury. No explanations, just 1 word. Hannah- Gorgeous Steph- Kind Quincy- Smart Gloria- Bitch Beau- Genuine Wyatt- Nice Tess- Tough Jessica- Determined Yvette- Sweet Thanks a lot Hannah, I hope this helps . Good luck with your decision
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Post by perry on Apr 4, 2013 15:27:26 GMT -5
1) Who are the three people who most deserve to be in the final 3 and why? Do not include yourself or anyone already sitting in the final 3. Yvette, Jessica, Tess
Tess and Jessica were probably 1 immunity win away from being in the finals. They both played really strong games and were voted out for being too big of a threat.
Yvette is in the final 3 if she wins the tiebreaker challenge, if Luca doesn't win the last immunity challenge. I could go on and on, she played a very well rounded game and just missed out on the finals where there were probably 5 scenarios and if only 1 of those happened she would be here but they all went against her.
2) Why do the two other finalists deserve my vote more than you? You will automatically lose my vote if you say they do not, I want to know what they did that was unique to their game that stood out to you. Vincent put himself in a position to essentially never be targeted. No one realistically brought his name up to be voted out.
Luca's "group" was being crumbled fast, he found himself a way to break the trend and be the last "Napa" in the game even tho Cascade seemed to be a lock for Final 3.
3) What was the worst move made in this game? I want to test your perception of the game around you, and do not feel unable to use a move that possibly involved me.
Quincy using his idol on Beau, whether Beau or Steph left at that time Quincy didn't have the numbers on his side. He could have went on an immunity run and used his idol for himself if/when he had lost. He could have used that time to also find a way into some sort of an alliance. It would have been very interesting to see where he would have ended up if he would have used the idol for himself.
And finally...
4) In one word, describe everyone in the jury. No explanations, just 1 word.
Hannah- Aggressive Steph- Fiesty Quincy- Strong Gloria- Invisible Beau- Outspoken Wyatt- Loyal Tess- Swag Jessica- Dominate Yvette- Charming
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Post by perry on Apr 4, 2013 16:04:57 GMT -5
Adam left - it was unanimous, nothing else to say
Misty left - I was the main person to bring her name up after everyone else wanted Steph out and started campaigning for Misty to leave before Steph ever came online.
Karla left - another unanimous vote
Nick left - You were already willing to vote out Nick with Karla, after Cascade lost numbers there was no choice but to put trust in you to carry out what you said you would do.
Quincy left - I trusted you and I got information that you were preparing for a merge and already had alliances that were going to join together, none of which included myself. You were already voting out Jessica before I took the charge into lying to you about the plan. So after I found all that out I orchestrated the plan to lie to you about the votes and for Cascade to all vote out Beau. This was a plan to "test your loyalty" if you had voted the way I told you to then I would def have worked with you. I had planned on blaming the vote screw up on Vincent if you voted the way I said to. If you were lying to me then it would have tied, which ended up happening.
Hannah/Stephanie left - I took a back seat right at merge there were 12 people in the game, if you said 1 thing to someone it would have spread to everyone. There was no reason for me to put my name in the hat of being voted out. The Steph round I was gone for all the game talk and voted last moment after I got filled in with a bunch of Pm's.
Quincy/Glorai/Beau - After Steph had left I joined forces with Tess, she was close to Wyatt so I was safe with both of them and I was safe with Cascade. We picked the 3 off the next 3 rounds.
Wyatt left - I had a big say in this round with Jessica. If I wanted I could have the voted in a different direction with Tess/Wyatt but ultimately I had my own end game plans and did not want to turn on every Cascade member.
Tess/Jessica left - I was pro Jessica leaving both rounds and tried to do whatever to get her out.
Yvette left - Lot of people have said it was a stupid vote for Vincent to bring me to the Finals. Luca was obviously afraid of me in the finals otherwise he would have voted out Vincent or Yvette.
I'm not saying I'm the best player in this cast, I'm not saying I made big moves every single round or even every other round. I have given everyone examples on what my moves were in this game. I've been aware of what's been going on every round, so what if I didn't do much during the Steph/Hannah vote off rounds. That's only 2 rounds in the entire game, I don't have to be seen as being better than everyone in this cast, I only have to be seen as being better than Luca and Vincent.
I have no idea what Luca did that was better than me, but everyone has this perception that Luca is the king of this game and that I sat on the bench doing nothing. Even after I stated big moves that I made, Vincent comes in and says I did nothing in another post. How can anyone take him serious on anything he says in the future after that?
Luca has won 2 challenges that both have an asterisk by them, him saying 4 challenge wins is bullshit. He had the benefit of being very lucky during the Steph vote. He was on the wrong side of things when Quincy, Beau, Gloria left. That's 3 votes in a row.
Is anyone going to honestly tell me he had a big impact on Tess and Jessica leaving? Then he wanted me out the last round and failed.
So from Final 10 to the end he won 2 challenges and nothing else, that's what I think but I'll be waiting to see what he comes up with.
I'm not a big fan of 3rd party questions, so I hope you let me reply to whatever Luca says. I'm more of a fan of battling it out against the other 2 in more of a debate type.
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Post by tess on Apr 4, 2013 19:24:25 GMT -5
Seriously. Swag.
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Post by perry on Apr 4, 2013 19:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Hannah on Apr 4, 2013 22:27:33 GMT -5
Tess who invited you here?!?! jk, loves ya hun <3
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Post by Luca on Apr 4, 2013 23:53:38 GMT -5
Luca...
I like to think that I personally don't take this game...well...personal. I am quite good at separating emotions from games most of the time, but after being (a self-appointed) underdog from the beginning of the game, I actually invested a lot into this game, and I do take moves personally. I mean when the game is all said and done, I will move on, and I will congratulate whoever the winner may be, even if it is you. You have the easiest path to my vote at the moment. You are someone who I see played the most sound and solid game out of the three of you left. But I need some answers from you, to help me separate emotion from the game. Why should I look past that you are the main reason I was voted out for 12th and didn't have any more rounds to fight for my life in the game, after you assured me you were with me, when there really was no reason to give me false hope? I need to know this because it is the thing that I am struggling with most from you, and if I did not have that obstacle, you would hands down have my vote to win this game.
To the three of you, again, congratulations and job well done. I am sorry if my questions are bland, personal, or just plain annoying, but I was out early, and I have not got to talk to any of you in over a month.
A final few questions that I would like you all to answer along with your personalized questions.
1) Who are the three people who most deserve to be in the final 3 and why? Do not include yourself or anyone already sitting in the final 3.
2) Why do the two other finalists deserve my vote more than you? You will automatically lose my vote if you say they do not, I want to know what they did that was unique to their game that stood out to you.
3) What was the worst move made in this game? I want to test your perception of the game around you, and do not feel unable to use a move that possibly involved me.
And finally...
4) In one word, describe everyone in the jury. No explanations, just 1 word. Hey Hannah, thank you for your questions and comments! As far as your first comment goes about me not being honest with you about the F12 vote, a good few factors played into this. The biggest thing going on in my head was at that point I didn't want Napa to find out definitively that I had flipped and try to dissuade me from voting you out. I already had my mind made up and knew I was the swing vote. What I was doing with you that round is once the vote was back on you, I let you know it was because I knew that you would leave with a somewhat positive impression of me. I apologize for lying to you, but at that point with 12 people still being in the game, I felt I needed to lie to Napa as a whole to garner the trust of the Cascade crew. With people still wanting things to be on tribal lines, I knew Napa would still need me next round regardless of if I lied to them or not, while Cascade would trust me unconditionally after sticking with them and essentially betraying Napa. 1. The three people I think deserve to be sitting in the final three are Tess, Jessica, and Stephenie. Tess I think was the ballsiest player in the game. She wasn't afraid to do what she needed to do to control votes and survive each round. Even though she burned a lot of bridges, she still played one hell of a game and despite the people she pissed off, I think she could have overcome that obstacle and secured a lot of votes in the end. Jessica should be sitting up here because not only did she control a lot of votes, but she was a challenge beast. Had she not had her immunity curse she probably would have been the best in challenges during the game. She was extremely likeable, had her finger on the pulse of the game, and was strong in challenges. All good qualities of a finalist and winner. Stephenie I think was a dark horse to win the game. She was extremely well liked, and was able to get herself out of jams multiple times. At the start of the merge, not a lot of people seemed to ever want to write her name down and that made her a huge end game threat since I think she was working behind the scenes and would have been able to not only vote people out in a way that allowed her to get their votes in the end, but wow a lot of people if she were sitting in the finals. 2. I think Vincent deserves to win over me because he was never immune during the game and was never in any real danger of being voted out. He was able to make some plays without going detected and that's something that deserves a lot of credit. I think Perry should win over me because he was able to make plays while being seen as this enigma to a lot of players. I remember a lot of people on Napa saying that Perry was weird and didn't fit in well, but he did a lot more than everyone thought he did and nobody ever expected much out of him because of that perception. 3. I think the worst move made this game was voting Wyatt out. As that round was happening, I truly didn't believe I was going to stay until it actually happened. At that point I was perceived as having friends on the jury and Wyatt was merely seen as a pawn in Tess's game so to take Wyatt out over me definitely didn't seem like the best game move, but I think it's something of a testament as to how I was able to wedge myself into the good graces of other Cascade members instead of giving up after I had allies walk out the door. 4. Hannah - Astute Stephenie - Cunning Quincy - Clever Gloria - Fiesty Beau - Emotional Wyatt - Friendly Tess - Fearless Jessica - Sovereign Yvette - Lovely Thank you for your questions Hannah and good luck with your decision!
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Post by perry on Apr 4, 2013 23:54:44 GMT -5
You were under control, calm.. in every situation. I remember telling you when people wanted you out and you were so chill about it.
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Post by wyatt on Apr 5, 2013 1:29:49 GMT -5
Tess is clearly shagadelic
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Post by Hannah on Apr 5, 2013 3:04:08 GMT -5
Thank you three for your amazing answers, it really has helped me with my decision, although it is still up in the air. It is down to two of you, but I will not specify which, because I still want all three of you guys to fight. I will look toward your closing statements to see where my vote will fall, so, make the most of it. Like I said, may the best boy win.
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