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Finale
Apr 1, 2013 11:22:30 GMT -5
Post by Host on Apr 1, 2013 11:22:30 GMT -5
Final Returnee Selections (which will only change if Yvette or Perry somehow wins)
ALL-STARS: Luca, Jessica, Tess, Quincy, Hannah FAVORITES: Perry, Gloria, Beau, Stephenie ALTERNATE: Yvette
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Finale
Apr 1, 2013 14:24:10 GMT -5
Post by Host on Apr 1, 2013 14:24:10 GMT -5
Jessica's bitter about Luca, and Quincy is trying to call her out on it. While ITA with Quincy, he's doing the same shit with Yvette. I highly doubt Quincy casually and politely stated that Yvette should "hop out from under Jessica's shadow" or w/e it is that he said. The egos are so intense there.
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Finale
Apr 2, 2013 0:38:45 GMT -5
Post by Host on Apr 2, 2013 0:38:45 GMT -5
All-Star PWs, please PM me what picture you want me to use for S5 ASAP. I have some of yours done already.
I still need to do: Decan, Wendy, Colleen
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Finale
Apr 2, 2013 7:41:32 GMT -5
Post by Emily on Apr 2, 2013 7:41:32 GMT -5
Yvette >>> Quincy/Hannah >>> Perry >>> Gloria >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Beau
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Finale
Apr 2, 2013 7:57:09 GMT -5
Post by No one on Apr 2, 2013 7:57:09 GMT -5
THIS ^
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Post by Host on Apr 2, 2013 13:26:34 GMT -5
Lol is that a ranking of who is most likable, cause if so I agree. Otherwise I don't agree that choosing whose coattails to ride is more interesting/entertaining gameplay. Sure, it worked out for her so far, so if she wins then ill respect the strategy. Until then, I unfortunately can't bring her back without bringing back everyone else first.
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Finale
Apr 2, 2013 13:47:10 GMT -5
Post by Emily on Apr 2, 2013 13:47:10 GMT -5
Yvette didn't ride no ones coattails, she made her own decisions, made her own social connections with Luca and Tess, and was loyal to Jessica. That's not riding coattails. That the jury doesn't see the beauty of her gameplay doesn't mean viewers can't see it. Since when do juror opinions affect AS choices? (seems like that to me tbh)
My ranking is a ranking of gameplay and I do think Yvette had one of the best games; a better game than for example Hannah who got 12th due to her own mistakes. Hannah's gameplay can be seen as interesting/entertaining, but it wasn't nearly as good as Yvette's IMO. People who make mistakes can be more interesting, sure, but personally I have been entertained by Yvette's gameplay. [not saying Hannah doesn't deserve AS, but Yvette deserves it even more imo] Is it about polarizing personalities more than about best gameplay then, since Yvette is not that while someone like Beau totally is?
Just my two cents though, you're the host so it will be your all-stars/fans-faves.
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Finale
Apr 2, 2013 15:22:20 GMT -5
Post by Host on Apr 2, 2013 15:22:20 GMT -5
"Since when do juror opinions affect AS choices? (seems like that to me tbh)"
I think this comes across a lot more rude than you intended so I'll let that slide, but only two jurors have vocally disapproved of Yvette. And if you scroll up Emily, I made it pretty clear I didn't agree with either. If juror opinions affected All-Star choices, then Carly would be an All-Star.
"Hannah's gameplay can be seen as interesting/entertaining, but it wasn't nearly as good as Yvette's IMO"
I consider an All-Star whose gameplay is interesting/entertaining. If I wanted to pick the people who I thought played the best games, I would just pick whoever made the Final 5 because that's the clearest way of defining a "good game". Hannah made more blunders, sure, but that's because she was making more decisions and putting herself out there more- which is what an All-Star is. Let us not forget that Yvette was the next to go on her original tribe- and it shows in her Fallen Comrades she still doesn't even know this.
But, finally:
"She made her own decisions"
If this is true, it's not highlighted in her confessional. You can argue that she waited for the vote to come down to two names and then made her own decision, but each time her vote was always what Jessica are Stephenie wanted.
Adam: She voted who the group voted. Misty: Had no control over this due to Ian & Vincent flipping, voted who Jessica told her to vote. Swap: Voted with what Stephenie and Tess decided. Was going to go along with Stephenie to flip on Tess. Merge: Voted however Jessica wanted her to. Did not stray away from this until the Final 5 where she realized she couldn't beat Jessica.
"Made her own social connections with Luca and Tess, and was loyal to Jessica."
IDK what social connections she made with Luca, but he tied that vote because he thinks Yvette didn't play a good game. If you look in the jury thread, her social game with Tess wasn't all that great.
I was actually still up in the air about her, but after writing all of this I am more than assured that she does not deserve to return.
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Finale
Apr 2, 2013 18:38:48 GMT -5
Post by Tinasaurus on Apr 2, 2013 18:38:48 GMT -5
*sits back smiling so Yvette won't target me in FVF because of this thread*
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Finale
Apr 3, 2013 1:15:58 GMT -5
Post by faith on Apr 3, 2013 1:15:58 GMT -5
okay hold the fuck up. fans vs FAVORITES right? Nobody here was a fucking fan of Gloria. @.@ can we please not francesca her?
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Finale
Apr 3, 2013 1:19:10 GMT -5
Post by faith on Apr 3, 2013 1:19:10 GMT -5
and you're saying Yvette doesn't deserve to return over Gloria? uhhhhhhhhh Gloria literally had 2 damned chances and she LOSTEM BOTH. come on... being "next to go" and GOING twice... 2 completely different things.
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Finale
Apr 3, 2013 1:22:28 GMT -5
Post by faith on Apr 3, 2013 1:22:28 GMT -5
Blah, Justin I love you, but you have this way of convincing yourself of things and just sticking to it.
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Finale
Apr 3, 2013 1:24:58 GMT -5
Post by faith on Apr 3, 2013 1:24:58 GMT -5
might I add... didn't Gloria say she didn't want to return?
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Finale
Apr 3, 2013 1:26:39 GMT -5
Post by faith on Apr 3, 2013 1:26:39 GMT -5
I do on the contrary believe that Beau, Perry, and Stephenie are 3 EXCELLENT selections. Stephenie was kinda queening and would have done well but damn dat id0l. Perry gives me jersey shoresque vibes. Beau is like white Phillip.
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Finale
Apr 3, 2013 2:19:51 GMT -5
Post by Emily on Apr 3, 2013 2:19:51 GMT -5
Oh God. Sorry everybody, I love debates in general so of course I won't let it slide. Just ignore the following post if you're not interested in this annoying shit. WELL if you read what I wrote earlier, that PM was just because I needed to feel like I had tried everything I could have done. I didn't expect your vote. I would have liked it, sure, but it would have been stupid on your part. And even, at that point, I thought you were very honest and nice, so I liked that. SO AS A JUROR, I gave you friendly advice on how to get my vote if you were to make the F3 (lolno). And how do you respond? You bitch, you trash me, you trash my game and you keep doing so after I'm gone. THAT's a sign of a bad player to me. If you can't even deal with the jury in the most basic sense, you suck. I didn't say I never made mistakes in this game. I made a lot. And I own up to it. I should have talked to you earlier. See, that's one of my mistakes. But you have never said that the way you handled the situation was dumb... And it really was. Holy crap someone is condescending.
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