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[quincy]

Hey guys! At the risk of sounding unoriginal, I also have to congratulate you 3 for making the Final 3, which is, indeed, a big accomplishment. I know many of us jurors have put a lot of heart in this game to sit where you are sitting, and we were unable to. So good job!

However, I must remind you that in this game, there is a winner and there are losers. So hopefully you all took two people who you know you can beat in this FTC to optimize your chances. Because second place doesn't reward you a fictional million dollars (lol).

Like most jurors, I'll address to you separately.

VINCENT

Yep, I'm also talking to you first. That can't be good, right? It isn't. I have to say, Vincent, that I've been rattling my brain in the last few days to find SOMETHING to ask you.
Your social game? Yes, you were nice and approachable in the conversations we had... but we had a grand total of three. I know you're in a different time zone, but Tess was as well and we were able to talk a lot.
Your strategic game? You sure didn't do much... but that's okay. I really respect the coattail-riding before ruthlessly eliminating the master. That's a great strategy and if we talk about Survivor History, it hasn't happened that much. But still... you wanna make all of this FTC about the F5 vote? :/
Your physical game? Nothing here either.

So yeah Vincent, this is my main question: What should the jury ask you? What in your game is remarkable enough for interrogations?

As you've figured, you probably have no chance to get my vote. The only way that would be possible is if you blow my mind and Perry/Luca are horrible. Which would be shocking. So I'll ask you little questions I don't really care about. BLOW MY MIND!

- When I was eliminated, you told me: "I have my own plans and I have made my own decisions". What were those decisions you had made for yourself at that point? (Final 10) And what were your "plans"?
- Oh God... I'm already running out... Hmm: Was I ever in your plans (or back-up plans)?
- How close were you to Perry?
- You and Perry keep saying Jessica wasn't completely in control. What decisions did you substantially factor in?

I guess that'll do. I mean, basically I want you to impress me and I'm giving you some ideas of what you talk about. In the end, what I want to know is why I should vote for you. Because right now, you don't even seem like a possibility.

Perry

Hi Perry. I'll be honest, cominng into this FTC, I was thinking I'd do a little bit like Vincent and tell you to impress me and to sell yourself. As you must know, in most FTC cases, when a juror tells you that, you probably won't get their vote. I was pretty sure I'd vote for Luca.

BUT!!! There is a but! You have been fighting so hard, and mostly, VERY WELL in this Final Tribal Council. This fighter sttitude is admirable, and you have to know that because of it, I come here 50/50. You really do have a shot to get my vote, so don't mess it up.

The one big issue I have with you is the social game. I do have a hard time voting for somebody I had so few real interactions with. So hmm first question: How was your social game in general? Were you able to make connections based on conversations you had with others (obviously, yeah)? With whom exactly?

Also... this is a little tougher to ask. Perry, when we would talk, you would provide one-word answers or you just... wouldn't make sense if you know what I mean. I remember your "*slap* *slap* *whip* *whip *meow* meow*" very well. And whenever I tried to talk to you, it wouldn't work. For example, I once proposed eliminating Tess and your answer was something like "I like black women". So throughout this game, I was under the impression you were playing the troll card and I even told myself, "woah, if he makes FTC, I hope he virtually stands up and says: I used the troll strategy to seem unthreatning". But none of that came up. Am I the one who doesn't understand you? I mean, we CLEARLY weren't close during this game. How much of a troll were you and how much of your ehaviour was intentional?

Finally, I just want to ask you something else. In another thread, you said that using the idol on Beau was the biggest mistake because I was in the minority. As much as I have to agree that it was a mistake, I have to say I'm surprised you said that I was alone... considering the fact that I thought we had a loose alliance until the F7! Form what I understand, you never thought we were together. Am I wrong? Were we really on "opposite sides of the game", like you say, all season long?
See, THAT's where I think you were in Jessica's shadow. While she was actively making me comfortable and was able to get my vote on your side to eliminate Hannah, and then to eliminate Stephenie, (because I thought she was a target of OUR alliance), you were back in chat with your "*slap* *slap*". If you want my vote, you'll have to refute that statement.

Actually, just writing that made me go back to my original thought: voting for Luca. Please use your magic FTCer skills to talk you way through this.

LUCA

Hey Luca, I'm SO happy to see you here. You're definitely one hell of a competitor and I was cheering for you from the jury booth during the last few rounds.

I do think you played a fantastic game, and I did talk about it, a little bit, in the jury house, but I want YOU to tell everyone what a great player you were. So here are some questions I'd like you to answers (some of them are to give you the opportunity to show how good you are, some are questions I do ask myself):
- How was eliminating Dallas a good move for your game?
- Why exactly did Ian flip at Belbaja?
- Why was eliminating Hannah a good strategic move on your part?
- How the hell did you survive the F7/F6 votes after the elimination of some of your closest allies?
If you have anything else you'd like to touch on, please go ahead.

Also, I'd like to know: When we hit the merge, if everything had gone your way, how would this game have unfolded? I do wanna know if you would have been loyal to Gloria and myself too.

Overall, I also want to thank you. I enjoyed this game the most when I was playing with you and I'd vote for you with pride. Just make sure you give me the reasons to vote for you.


TO ALL OF YOU

Sorry, you'll have to work for my vote too. Or at least, to answer my questions. I LOVE having long answers to read, and to know they're coming from me So here we go!

- Please describe ONE moment we shared together, whether it's social or strategic or whatever. I wanna know how well you consider we bonded. I know it'll be hard for some of you but do your best.
- List the Top 10 moments of this season. Hopefully you are able to sell yourself in those.
- What are your Edgic-related projections (Overall Rating for the Jurors and the F3)?

You don't have to answer everything if you don't want to, I wouldn't want to bury you all under some of these more-or-less useful questions. But I honestly feel like these listing questions are a huge part of the fun that is the FTC. So yeah, do as you want.

Good luck guys, and may the best man win.

[perry]

I was trolling Beau mostly, I didn't like that you guys voted me out. Beau had come at me pretty hardcore on a few occasions for no reason.

I did want you to see me as a non threat so that in the next vote you vote Vincent or Jessica.

My social game with some wasn't very good. I talked to everyone on the jury a lot aside from you, Beau, Gloria, and maybe Hannah, but we all still had conversations maybe just not as many as others.

I have stated I wasn't very active during the first 2 votes at merge, I've also said I was going to let Jessica/Steph take the lead for the first part of merge. There's no reason for me to try and get something done that early, I would have been gone after Hannah/Steph left probably. If that's all you got for "being in Jessica's shadow" 2 rounds... that's not much at all. Pre merge there's 2 rounds that I could then say Jessica was in my shadow. No one ever wants to bring that up tho.

Jessica was more active during the Steph/Hannah vote, that's fine by me. That doesn't mean I was doing everything she wanted. If anything I would say I was in Steph's shadow those 2 rounds. But that's it, those are the only times in the whole game. I had the episode title for when you were voted out, I must have been doing something productive after the first 2 vote outs at merge.

I think you had to of known that Cascade was going to stick together, I think we were on opposite sides the whole game when it comes down to it. I was afraid of your idol early on and when you used it on Beau, I saw it as a big waste and missed opportunity for yourself. If you stayed with the idol for a few rounds, maybe then we could have gotten together on something.



Side note.. another person coming in here and praising Luca... FOR WHAT?

We still have yet to see anything from him. Why does Luca get praise and I get shit canned before any questions? If I was an outsider watching this game go down, I wouldn't even know Luca was in the game until he won immunity but most of the jury has this perception that he's the king of this game. It's so annoying.

I don't know what's more stupid, thinking Jessica controlled so many people in the game or the jury's love for Luca.
Luca must have done some crazy jedi mind tricks on all of you.

[yvette]

If you were watching the game you'd know more than the players do. I'm not sure how Luca interacted with anyone else, but I know how he interacted with me, and he was far from invisible. It's like I said to Quincy & Beau and how I am taking my own advice and not judging by what we physically saw ourselves but learning from these answers. People playing the game might view you one way but viewers will see things differently. I've been told that Quincy is really awesome and had a great story.

Just my two cents

[No one]

OMG I GET THE PICTURE it took me until the very last sentence but I GOT IT NOW YAY

[perry]

Apr 4, 2013 21:41:56 GMT -5 yvette said:

It's like I said to Quincy & Beau and how I am taking my own advice and not judging by what we physically saw ourselves but learning from these answers. People playing the game might view you one way but viewers will see things differently. I've been told that Quincy is really awesome and had a great story.

Greatest thing posted yet.

I made that comment about Luca hoping someone would reply to it. Of course he's not been invisible but I hope other people see how ridiculous it sounded and relate that to my game as well. The perception I have gotten before anyone answered any questions was a joke, and the comment I made about Luca was a joke too.

Now if we could get everyone to realize this about me and Luca, it would be great.

While I'm on this topic, the part where I said Jessica was in my shadow for 2 rounds pre merge. It was stated to get everyone to open their eyes again and see how ridiculous that statement was and to compare that with people thinking I was in Jessica's shadow. They are both ridiculous statements, I hope everyone can realize that.

[Vincent]

Hi Quincy. Despite the fact that I have no shot at your vote, I'll do my best to fight for it.

Your social game? Yes, you were nice and approachable in the conversations we had... but we had a grand total of three. I know you're in a different time zone, but Tess was as well and we were able to talk a lot.
I don't think we only had 3 conversations, we had A LOT more. Everytime I approached you though, you had to leave or were in a rush, then you would come back to the chat and not talk to me again. How is that my fault? I'm not blaming you, since I'm not the juror here, I just find it unfair to blame my social game for it. You even said yourself Perry wasn't good socially while I was nice & approachable, I always spoke my mind to you, it's so unfair to not even give me that I was better socially. I never brought up my time zone to this FTC, and I won't cause it's not your fault and I have to deal with it on my own way... but I always did my best to be in the chat for as much as I can even if it meant 3 AM my time. Of course I wasn't on 24/7 but I tried my hardest on weekends and throughout the week I was on earlier for as long as I could, but for some people it was impossible to be online at the same time for a long time cause of the different schedules. However this it didn't prevent me from talking to every juror, even if not a lot but at least made some sort of a connecion.


Your strategic game? You sure didn't do much... but that's okay. I really respect the coattail-riding before ruthlessly eliminating the master. That's a great strategy and if we talk about Survivor History, it hasn't happened that much. But still... you wanna make all of this FTC about the F5 vote? :/
I did have a strategic game. Since round #1, I made an alliance with Ian, Karla, Yvette & Jessica... then I made yet another one with Perry, Steph, Freddie & Ian. In the tribal stages, I kept myself in the middle between 2 alliances and I would have never become a target. Coming to the merge, I had a deal with Beau from the tribal swap and made a F2 alliance with Luca. When I make allies on both sides, Luca & Beau on a side & then every Cascade on the other, this let both sides tell me their plans so I share "some" of them with the other side, then keep the rest for myself, so I could keep a war going between both sides so they take each other out and keep the target off of me, then that is FOR SURE strategy and someone thinking strategically.

I never talked mainly on the final 5 vote move, that wasn't my only move. In the merge, Hannah left because of me. Luca was already set on voting Beau and when I talked to him he was like "Nothing else we can do, they are voting Beau". And that's when I stepped up and told him that we can't vote out Beau, that was no good for us and we have to change it. Before I even approached him I told Cascade and planted seeds of doubt that you & him won't even vote Beau then I approached Luca and convinced him to vote for Hannah knowing that if Jessica knows that you & him will be voting Hannah she will switch her vote and let Yvette/Perry who would do anything she wanted switch their votes as well. Nobody gave me any credit for that cause like I said it was my strategy to work behind the scenes and not let anybody think I'm a schemer, but I initiated that move.

At final 8 I campaigned to get Tess out and while it didn't work, [and final 7 she was immune] I kept pushing for it until she left at final 6.

What should the jury ask you? What in your game is remarkable enough for interrogations?
The jury should ask me about my game moves and the alliances I have formed throughout the game, what have I done to get here or did I just float? As I explained above, I wasn't just a sitting duck and the proof is that another player who was UTR like Wyatt... his name was brought up a lot cause he didn't have the connections I had. Even Perry, he was a target at final 5 cause he betrayed Jessica and he would have gone home if it hadn't been for me & Luca and if he hadn't been immune at final 6. And Luca whose name was brought up a lot, you may look at it that I wasn't a target cause I was UTR, well not every UTR player in this game wasn't a target, so it's not about laying low... it's about playing the right game, making the right moves and alliances to not become a target, and I accomplished that without ever being a target or receiving more than 1 vote in a tribal council. There is a difference between laying low doing nothing and laying low while working your way to the end and having strategy in every alliance/deal/move/vote you make.

What's remarkable about my game was how I was able to be :a devil in sheep's clothing" like Hannah said and not EVER become a target, not a single tribal council. What's also remarkable was being in the middle of both sides and keeping the war between them going. Making moves without anybody noticing and attempting to shake things up even when it didn't work out perfectly, at least I had the guts to do it although I was never immune unlike the other 2 finalists.


What were those decisions you had made for yourself at that point? (Final 10) And what were your "plans"?
Just up until final 10: At final 12 the target was Hannah, then it flipped to Beau, so I decided I had to change it back to Hannah cause she was the biggest threat at that point. You didn't know about the final 2 I had with Luca and the deal I made with Beau, those were plans nobody knew about. My plan was to just keep playing both sides so they take each other out like I explained above and keep the target off of me. I also decided to keep Yvette & Perry close to me cause I know I can beat them in the end, and had plans of getting out Tess & Jessica after the numbers dwindle down a little. I accomplished both plans.

Was I ever in your plans (or back-up plans)?
Yes you were. I wanted to work with you & Luca to get out Tess & Jessica. However the round you left, you still targeted Jessica and lied to me about the vote, saying you will vote Tess but you were actually voting Jessica. I always just had trouble trusting you although I was willing to work with you & Luca.

- How close were you to Perry?
Very close since the beginning, he was hard to talk to though so I preferred a lot of people to him.

- You and Perry keep saying Jessica wasn't completely in control. What decisions did you substantially factor in?
It was never Jessica deciding "everything" it was obvious who we would vote everytime. However I initiated Hannah's elimination and pushed for Tess to go.Yyou/Gloria was obvious for us. The decisions I think she made was voting out Beau & Wyatt which I was NOT cool with and kept pushing to change it, but at least I had the guts to change it unlikes Luca & Perry who just went along with it! I know it didn't work out but there were 2 other moves that I was involved in and worked out.

What I want to know is why I should vote for you.
You should vote for me because I came to this game with a set strategy and made it work out perfectly. I put on a show that I wasn't threatning and worked behind that forming alliances/deals & making moves without anybody noticing. Everyone was underestimating me, even up to this point although I was playing the game since day 1. Like I said, it was my strategy to hide it and it worked out for me cause obviously anyone who showed he was a schemer or was playing the game, got eliminated! So playing too hard like I always do in ORGs or showing that I was a schemer wouldn't have gotten me anything but a jury spot, but I was playing to win! I know I sucked in challenges, I already said that this was my main weakness and I'm not afraid to admit it! That's why I focused mainly on my social game, forming tight connections, having a strategy & forming alliances so I can make it to the end without ever being a target and so I can always be in the middle of whatever sides were in the game.

You should vote for me because I made moves, I attempted to shake things up, sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't but I had the guts to do it and was able to bear the consequences although I was NEVER immune and I was always vulnerable. Look at Perry, what did he do? Push for Jessica to go only when he was immune? He would have never done that if he didn't get immunity. He would have been scared that it would be him. What did Luca do? Be the only Napa in the end? What else did he do besides floating and being the dead man walking. I mean you should vote for him cause he was your friend, but I don't think those 2 played better than I did. My game is being really rated low for some reason and I'm not gonna blame you guys cause it was my strategy and it may not be a winning on but at least it got me here. I was NEVER a target in this game where at some point they both were, they actually almost went home, this is something not easy to accomplish and I did. Everyone in this game was a target and almost got voted out and it's very unfair to say I just wasn't a target cause I was UTR, this is a very false assumption because Yvette/Wyatt were both UTR players but they are not here!

I hope this changes your mind a little and makes you look better at my game, if not... then at least I did my best to fight for it. Thanks Quincy.

[perry]

The decisions I think she made was voting out Beau & Wyatt which I was NOT cool with and kept pushing to change it, but at least I had the guts to change it unlikes Luca & Perry who just went along with it! I know it didn't work out but there were 2 other moves that I was involved in and worked out.

Beau was a pre planned vote, along with Gloria and Quincy, those 3 votes were obvious. No one in the group came up with it alone. Do I need to draw everyone a coloring book to understand this?

Jessica and myself both were in on the Wyatt vote.

Look at Perry, what did he do? Push for Jessica to go only when he was immune? He would have never done that if he didn't get immunity. He would have been scared that it would be him.

By this logic I didn't campaign for Jessica to go at Final 5?

Do you forget the huge rant I posted at Final 5 tribal council?


Thanks again for fabricating your statements and posting lies.

[Vincent]

^You only did that cause the damage was already done from final 6 [you started the move only when you were immune], even if you had never won immunity... you would have never had the guts to campaign to get Jess out. I'm assuming this based on the way you were playing this whole game which I have seen closely. It was smart of you to post that huge rant at judgment so the jury thinks you were behind Jessica's elimination when you actually weren't, glad I could clarify that it wasn't you at all behind it and it was just your only hope, if I didn't vote for her, Luca wouldn't have done it and you would still leave even if Luca voted for her... so I believe it's obvious who was the swing vote at that point.

I'm not fabricating anything, I'm only being honest & stating facts cause it's out there obvious that you had no power whatsoever and I'm the one who saved you. Quit throwing accusations, I'm not accusing you of fabricating anything despite the BS you have been posting all over the boards, but w/e.

[perry]

So now you were the swing vote at Final 5...... does that mean I was the swing vote the round Steph went out and the round Gloria went out and the round Quincy went out.....

Just because the vote count is close doesn't mean you can just tell everyone you were the swing vote.

[Jessica]

Apr 5, 2013 12:30:31 GMT -5 Vincent said:

if I didn't vote for her, Luca wouldn't have done it and you would still leave even if Luca voted for her... so I believe it's obvious who was the swing vote at that point.

Yes. It's Perry.

You already told us that you and Luca were plotting to get me out at five for a few rounds before this. You can't turn around and pretend you're the swing vote after that.

If Perry had come to me and Yvette and told us that you and Luca were against me, I'd have flipped on you in a heartbeat, so if you took the forefront like you've claimed, then he's still the critical vote that made that happen.

[Vincent]

Apr 5, 2013 14:28:36 GMT -5 Jessica said:

Apr 5, 2013 12:30:31 GMT -5 Vincent said:

if I didn't vote for her, Luca wouldn't have done it and you would still leave even if Luca voted for her... so I believe it's obvious who was the swing vote at that point.

Yes. It's Perry.

You already told us that you and Luca were plotting to get me out at five for a few rounds before this. You can't turn around and pretend you're the swing vote after that.

If Perry had come to me and Yvette and told us that you and Luca were against me, I'd have flipped on you in a heartbeat, so if you took the forefront like you've claimed, then he's still the critical vote that made that happen.

That's right and I didn't say anything opposite to that [about plotting to get you out]! I'm not pretending to be the swing vote, but my vote made the difference.I could have voted Perry and he would have been gone, I don't know what point you're trying to make here besides just makin me look bad. Yes I did want you gone but I DID have the option to keep you, didn't I? All you needed was my vote.

Yes what you're saying could have happened but I didn't share that piece of information [getting you out earlier] with anyone or with people like Perry cause they'd run to you with it like he ran to you with a lot of stuff this whole game, which is something I kept in mind to keep myself in that position? Obviously sharing this info with him could have gotten me in rouble. Although that "scenario" doesn't make sense at all cause I don't know how you would have trusted Perry after he campaigned for 24 hours to get you out, but ok.

[quincy]

First of all, I want to say great job Vincent, I thought you did well with those answers. And Perry, I'm disappointed by yours. I feel like you didn't even bother reading what I had written.

And about the constant attacks on Luca. You said in another thread he didn't post much in this FTC. True, but he just said he had an exam Perry, and that he'd answer them tonight. If he doesn't it's another story, but we can't tell at this point.

And I do have many good points on Luca (in a strategic game, a social game, and a challenge game). But I want him to defend his case himself. If he can't then, you'd be right, Luca probably wouldn't deserve to win because the FTC is a crucial part of this game.

[Jessica]

Apr 5, 2013 14:52:39 GMT -5 Vincent said:

That's right and I didn't say anything opposite to that [about plotting to get you out]! I'm not pretending to be the swing vote, but my vote made the difference.I could have voted Perry and he would have been gone, I don't know what point you're trying to make here besides just makin me look bad. Yes I did want you gone but I DID have the option to keep you, didn't I? All you needed was my vote.

Using the phrase "it's obvious who was the swing vote at that point" is pretty much the dictionary definition of claiming to be the swing vote. And you're not the only person who had options. That's called free will, and by your logic that makes every single one of us the swing vote.

[perry]

I read everything, you basically called me a weirdo and that I was in Jessica's shadow and socially awkward.

You also said you were basically voting for Luca twice, and now posted another time saying you could defend his game play on many levels.

There's not much I can say to "impress" you after you have said the above things.

[quincy]

Well I‘m VERY disappointed. I honestly would have voted for you if you had put a little effort/if Luca didn‘t respond. But after Vincent‘s performance, compared to yours, I don‘t think I can vote for you. I even gave you a second chance. What a disappointment