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Post by yvette on Apr 4, 2013 7:21:22 GMT -5
Hi guys!!!! This is such a sexy F3. Of course it would be sexier with me there I'm so proud of all three of you.
Perry, gorgeous, hi. Anyway, I want you to know that some of your deals were beyond obvious. Ian & Vincent had a deal with Karla, Jessica & I to go to the end, so when Ian suddenly wanted to save Steph after talking to you and Steph, we all knew exactly what was going on. Which was fine though, because I never wanted to vote out Steph, I asked for Misty to go. And then when you kept trying to save Tess, Jessica asked her if she had something with you and she told Jessica yes. When Wyatt left the only reason Vincent got blamed is because Tess made it seem that way, but after he and I got in a fight, we compared notes and we knew it was you lol But all in all, whether you were obvious or not, you still did stuff. This is why I think Vincent made a mistake voting me out. While you were obvious, I apparently was not lol Because a few people felt I did nothing all game but play in Jessica's shadow (which, she was on the other tribe for half the game but ok lol) But that's neither here nor there. I was easy to beat while I think you aren't. Obvious but in the F3 with moves you've made. PS. I always liked you more than Ian <3
Vincent, he sweetie!!! Very sorry for our fight, as Quincy can tell you, I get heated lol But also glad we talked it out and figured things out. I don't mean to be mean when I say you can't beat Perry & Luca, I just really think you'll place third behind them where with me, you had a great chance to place second. But hopefully you'll prove me wrong. Your greatest accomplishment is staying completely loyal to Cascade to the very end. Bravo!!! Not many people will do that in Survivor. And I don't just mean Cascade, but you, Jessica and I were together from day one, and then you and Perry from same or day two lol Either way, you did what barely anyone does and I give you major credit for that. But one thing you are wrong about is when you said in your OP that everyone was afraid to make a move against Jessica or make a "big" move. That wasn't true. Basically everyone had deals with her.
Luca!!!! Sexiest man alive, my secret luvah!!!! One of the PWs wants us to have beautiful babies together lol Loyal, Fierce, Smart. You've got my vote. The only way I'm not voting you is if the others impress me more in their FTC answers or you disappoint me, somehow You have been extremely loyal to your allies. You've played this game smartly. You had the chance to keep Jessica in this game but chose to vote her out because you knew she'd give you a run for your money. Thus also ensuring you would win that final challenge. Despite the fight Perry put up. I'm super curious to know if anyone ever realized that you and I have been secretly working together since Ian left. I probably was obvious a few times about keeping you but there were times when I also would agree to vote you and then try to get the vote changed. So I do wonder lol It's actually my biggest question in the game lol Did anyone ever suspect lmfao <3
Anyhoo...........................
I'm not going to ask you annoying questions lol I'm going to read everything you say to everyone else and if you choose to reply to me, that's ok. Anything you need to clarify from my comments. Anything you want to say that no one is asking you. Please feel free to post them here.
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Post by perry on Apr 4, 2013 9:25:49 GMT -5
I'm not just replying to you Yvette on this one but to others who are saying Jessica controlled many people. Yvette you are one of the people that is being said was controlled so you should know yourself that it's not true. Why is Luca getting praise for voting Jessica out at Final 5? Shouldn't everyone be saying Luca was controlled by Jessica because he didn't vote her out at Final 6?
Luca got so lucky during the Final 4 challenge. I read the rules wrong and I was posting once exactly every 3 minutes for over 6 hours. If I read the rules correctly I would only of had to average 2.5 posts every minute to beat him. I would have won, it wouldn't have even been close. Jessica's penalty at Final 4 was kind of harsh, it should have been a time penalty I think. Again another challenge where he could have/ and probably should have lost. Since we are speaking of immunity challenges, he won 2 individual challenges, you can't count the teams of 4 as immunity challenge wins. My partner on one of those didn't even post and another team didn't post either! That's winning by default and should not be counted towards a win.
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Post by Vincent on Apr 4, 2013 13:45:28 GMT -5
Yvette <3. Thanks for giving us the chance cause I wanna clarify something.
I just wanna say that I don't think Perry played better than me, he only started making moves when he was "immune" and he never had the guts to do it earlier while I was never afraid to make big moves and campaigned to get Tess out until she left and you know that. I just don't see what big moves Perry has done that you're talking about. I made a lot of connections with both sides while he only stuck with Cascade.
I was the one who flipped the first vote in the merge to Hannah. Initially, it was her but then it flipped to Beau so I wanted to flip it back to her cause Beau was close to me and Hannah was a huge social threat. I convinced Luca to vote for her instead of Beau knowing that Jessica would change her vote when I convince Luca to vote for Hannah. I'm not saying I orchestrated the whole thing cause nobody orchestrated it, but I'm the one who initiated the move and I never got credit for it cause people didn't realize it was me since I was always working things secretly I just wanna say that I didn't just sit there doing nothing like people think, I was making moves and forming alliances... people just decided I wasn't threatning to them so didn't vote for me and so I was never a target. I have no idea why I'm being blamed for that, it was a strategy and it worked out well. I was playing the game and I let you guys think something that's not true so I can work behind that without being targeted!
Now that I'm done with Perry, since you're saying I'll place 3rd. I don't think Luca played better than me either, it could be a toss up on how you guys look at it but we had our strengths & weaknesses. I just feel that Luca has been a dead man walking for a long period and floated his way. I'm not saying he did nothing, that'd be unfair but I just don't think he should given all the credit.
Also about voting for you at final 4, I believed you were too sweet, very loyal specially that you didn't turn on Jessica and people liked you so I believed it was better to vote for you.
Thanks Yvette!
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Post by perry on Apr 4, 2013 14:38:45 GMT -5
I only started making moves when I was immune?
I was the one to get Misty out pre merge, and if it wasn't for me Jessica would have been voted out instead of Quincy the first time. You were all for splitting the votes that round.
So one of your big moves was getting Tess out after you campaigned for many rounds, but yet in another post you said me doing the same thing for Jessica wasn't a big move of mine. You can't have it both ways.
I only stuck with Cascade huh? Is that why I was pro Tess the entire game since merge? and I was the first one out of our group to turn on a Cascade member.
I feel like I keep saying what moves I made in the game over and over, followed by people saying "oh, Luca has this game won already." or "perry hasn't made any moves until later in the game"
At least I'm pointing out examples of what I did, I'm not bullshitting people with generic sugar coated statements
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Post by yvette on Apr 4, 2013 16:47:02 GMT -5
Just to clear things up, my statements were based on assumptions on how we viewed you guys throughout the game. It is your jobs to prove us wrong. So far I'm impressed that you're both fighting to win.
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Post by Luca on Apr 4, 2013 22:30:14 GMT -5
I'm not just replying to you Yvette on this one but to others who are saying Jessica controlled many people. Yvette you are one of the people that is being said was controlled so you should know yourself that it's not true. Why is Luca getting praise for voting Jessica out at Final 5? Shouldn't everyone be saying Luca was controlled by Jessica because he didn't vote her out at Final 6? Luca got so lucky during the Final 4 challenge. I read the rules wrong and I was posting once exactly every 3 minutes for over 6 hours. If I read the rules correctly I would only of had to average 2.5 posts every minute to beat him. I would have won, it wouldn't have even been close. Jessica's penalty at Final 4 was kind of harsh, it should have been a time penalty I think. Again another challenge where he could have/ and probably should have lost. Since we are speaking of immunity challenges, he won 2 individual challenges, you can't count the teams of 4 as immunity challenge wins. My partner on one of those didn't even post and another team didn't post either! That's winning by default and should not be counted towards a win. To address your first comment, I think the reason I may be getting more praise than you in this department is because I made sure I got my way both of those rounds. I took advantage of you turning on Jessica that round and went straight to her about it in order to have my way and ensure Tess left that round. At the F5 I knew you would still want to vote for Jessica, so I could get her out then and set myself up to get to the finals and have a good chance to win the game, win or lose the final immunity challenge. If anything that is what sets me apart from your endgame. I had my way over you, and that's just the fact of the matter. As far as your comment about challenges goes. I feel it's immensely unfair to say I got lucky with the final challenge. I did a lot of meticulous planning around the FIC that you'll see when boards open up. I asked Morgan questions about the challenge in order to ensure I was doing everything correctly and could do things on my terms. It was your own miscalculation that you misread the challenge rules and did it the way you did. I'm not saying you didn't put up a good fight in it, but I planned out how I wanted to do it to ensure I would win it. As for the challenge Jessica lost by three minutes, one of the reasons Jessica had to go after Tess was because she was cursed. Yes it absolutely sucks that she lost the challenge the way she did but I used her curse to my advantage and was able to defeat her. You can say I didn't do well in challenges, but I did and it all goes back to the theme I wrote about in my opening about waiting for the correct moment to strike. Overall I won four challenges. The one pre-merge, the first merge immunity, and the final two IC's. I never counted the team challenge as one of my wins, and even still, if you wanted to win that challenge bad enough, you would have planned better with your other team members. Jessica/Yvette/I worked like a well oiled machine during that round, and that's why we beat you guys, not just for the sole fact your team didn't participate.
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Post by Jessica on Apr 4, 2013 22:41:23 GMT -5
Eh, Luca, the final five win was 100% luck. The challenge disadvantage played a role in it, but at least two thirds of that loss had nothing to do with the curse.
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Post by wyatt on Apr 4, 2013 23:15:14 GMT -5
And that team challenge was not lost because we had poor planning. We were all online to do the challenge but my advantage was time based and the board wasn't set up to accurately give us our advantage properly soar couldn't do anything until it was worked out which ended up being so late in the game that we didn't get to make an attempt at the challenge. Which was far from Perry's fault.
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Post by perry on Apr 4, 2013 23:48:54 GMT -5
I'm not just replying to you Yvette on this one but to others who are saying Jessica controlled many people. Yvette you are one of the people that is being said was controlled so you should know yourself that it's not true. Why is Luca getting praise for voting Jessica out at Final 5? Shouldn't everyone be saying Luca was controlled by Jessica because he didn't vote her out at Final 6? Luca got so lucky during the Final 4 challenge. I read the rules wrong and I was posting once exactly every 3 minutes for over 6 hours. If I read the rules correctly I would only of had to average 2.5 posts every minute to beat him. I would have won, it wouldn't have even been close. Jessica's penalty at Final 4 was kind of harsh, it should have been a time penalty I think. Again another challenge where he could have/ and probably should have lost. Since we are speaking of immunity challenges, he won 2 individual challenges, you can't count the teams of 4 as immunity challenge wins. My partner on one of those didn't even post and another team didn't post either! That's winning by default and should not be counted towards a win. To address your first comment, I think the reason I may be getting more praise than you in this department is because I made sure I got my way both of those rounds. I took advantage of you turning on Jessica that round and went straight to her about it in order to have my way and ensure Tess left that round. At the F5 I knew you would still want to vote for Jessica, so I could get her out then and set myself up to get to the finals and have a good chance to win the game, win or lose the final immunity challenge. If anything that is what sets me apart from your endgame. I had my way over you, and that's just the fact of the matter. As far as your comment about challenges goes. I feel it's immensely unfair to say I got lucky with the final challenge. I did a lot of meticulous planning around the FIC that you'll see when boards open up. I asked Morgan questions about the challenge in order to ensure I was doing everything correctly and could do things on my terms. It was your own miscalculation that you misread the challenge rules and did it the way you did. I'm not saying you didn't put up a good fight in it, but I planned out how I wanted to do it to ensure I would win it. As for the challenge Jessica lost by three minutes, one of the reasons Jessica had to go after Tess was because she was cursed. Yes it absolutely sucks that she lost the challenge the way she did but I used her curse to my advantage and was able to defeat her. You can say I didn't do well in challenges, but I did and it all goes back to the theme I wrote about in my opening about waiting for the correct moment to strike. Overall I won four challenges. The one pre-merge, the first merge immunity, and the final two IC's. I never counted the team challenge as one of my wins, and even still, if you wanted to win that challenge bad enough, you would have planned better with your other team members. Jessica/Yvette/I worked like a well oiled machine during that round, and that's why we beat you guys, not just for the sole fact your team didn't participate. Here comes the sugar coated bullshit statements. Get your italics crap out of here. You didn't control Yvette, Vincent or Tess's votes at Final 6. I only needed Vincent or Yvette's vote that round and you're using your words and italics to try and say that you are some big time game player. Jessica and Tess went out back to back, and you're somehow saying you had your way over me because Jessica went out 1 round later than what I wanted? WOW, let's all give it up to Luca!!!! Here we go with you wording your statements. If I read the challenge correctly, YOU LOSE. What don't you understand about that? It doesn't matter what you did in the challenge. I would have doubled your score with the amount of time I posted. It's my fault that Beau didn't do the team challenge? Ok Luca.
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Post by Luca on Apr 5, 2013 0:22:16 GMT -5
Here comes the sugar coated bullshit statements. Get your italics crap out of here. You didn't control Yvette, Vincent or Tess's votes at Final 6. I only needed Vincent or Yvette's vote that round and you're using your words and italics to try and say that you are some big time game player. Jessica and Tess went out back to back, and you're somehow saying you had your way over me because Jessica went out 1 round later than what I wanted? WOW, let's all give it up to Luca!!!! Here we go with you wording your statements. If I read the challenge correctly, YOU LOSE. What don't you understand about that? It doesn't matter what you did in the challenge. I would have doubled your score with the amount of time I posted. It's my fault that Beau didn't do the team challenge? Ok Luca. I never said I controlled Tess's vote. I got Tess out that round by going to Jessica and Yvette about getting Tess out. Vincent and I already had an end game deal and we both wanted Tess out that round. You wanted Jessica out that round and I used it to my advantage so Yvette and Jessica would express mistrust of you and trust me. I also let them know about you and Tess wanting a F3 with me to seal the deal and ensure Tess left. I took the tools that were given to me that round and used them to ensure I had my ideal boot order which was Tess out at the final 6 and Jessica out at the final 5. That was the way I had wanted it to happen, and I made sure it did. I never said I was biggest player in this game. I'm just stating the fact that I had them leave in the order I wanted them to. I don't understand why you are being so hostile with me about that. As far as the final four challenge goes, you didn't read the rules correctly and you did lose. You can't go back in the past and change the fact you didn't read it correctly. You made a mistake and it cost you the final IC. It's not about the what if's, but about what actually happened and that's how it played out. With the team challenge, the way Morgan made it sound was that you guys hadn't planned accordingly by not granting you an extension. We had 48 hours to do that challenge and when I logged in after it was posted, Jessica/Yvette and I were already going back and forth exchanging PMs and setting up how we were going to do it so we could win. It was a team challenge where we had to work together to ensure we won immunity. My thought process here is that if you guys had planned accordingly and couldn't complete it, Morgan would have granted you guys an extension, but he didn't which conveys the impression that you guys didn't plan accordingly. Just like with the F4 IC, Gamma won that challenge regardless of the circumstances.
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Post by Luca on Apr 5, 2013 0:26:25 GMT -5
Btw, I have exam early tomorrow, so I'm heading off to bed. Wyatt I have most of your response written up but I have a few more things I need to add in to it. I get out of class relatively early tomorrow, so I will work on finishing up the rest of the responses then. Night everyone!
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Post by perry on Apr 5, 2013 0:42:29 GMT -5
You said you had your way over me, and you're the one making a huge deal about Final 6 and Final 5 vote offs. You're playing it off like it was a big move for you and that you orchestrated every last detail for the boot order to fall into place. At the end of the day it didn't matter if Tess went first or if Jessica went first, but the fact is your'e trying to make it look good for you and bad for me when it's just a bunch of bullshit clouding the truth. There are other people backing me up on your immunity wins, just accept the fact that you have 2 asterisks by the wins. There's also an asterisk by Stephanie's vote off. Wasn't it the Hannah round that the deadline got extended? I wish it was the Steph round that got extended, you would have been out. Lucky luckyyyyyyyyyyyyy Luca lucky lucky Luca lucky lucky Luca Lucky lucky LUCKY LUCKYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYy. ^ Fishy Fishayyyyyyyyyy remix
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Post by beau on Apr 5, 2013 14:50:09 GMT -5
Perry-- I didn't NOT do the team challenge. Wyatt was never online when he said he would be. I was online for hours the night before the challenge was due, and NO Wyatt. Just to clarify that...I didn't lose the challenge, and I'm the one that went...so thanks for making this vote MUCH easier
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Post by perry on Apr 5, 2013 15:34:31 GMT -5
I said you didn't do the challenge, which is correct.
Do you not remember how bad you chewed me out constantly for no reason? I started giving you crap back, so if you couldn't take it then there was no reason to treat me like shit in the first place. I had a conversation with you when you were feeling down about the game and I told you that anything in the game could flip and change, you should go blame Luca for using his prize and bailing. It took any possible chance of you staying in the game away.
I was also asked to throw that challenge to get you out, and I didn't. You have this outer perception of me that is total bullshit.
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Post by wyatt on Apr 5, 2013 22:55:11 GMT -5
Perry-- I didn't NOT do the team challenge. Wyatt was never online when he said he would be. I was online for hours the night before the challenge was due, and NO Wyatt. Just to clarify that...I didn't lose the challenge, and I'm the one that went...so thanks for making this vote MUCH easier So you go out at 6 something the night before, leaving us with roughly 18 hours to do the challenge and say you wont be back all night and somehow I didn't show up.
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